But if I had been outside of NIH, not in one of those big research places, Iām not sure that would have been the same story. Weāve got work to do to make sure that everybody in America has access to the very best care for their particular circumstance. Thatās not easy to do in a complicated health care system thatās got all kinds of incentives that are not always aligned with the best outcome for the patient.Ā
On the idea that the NIH could weather another Trump administration:
I think if the past is prologue, yes. NIH has been able to do its job through all kinds of political changes. I was there for 12 years, and I was appointed by George W. Bush. I was reappointed by Barack Obama. I was then reappointed by Donald Trump. Itās about the science. Itās about the mission. Itās about the commitment to trying to make a difference in health. And I think that will continue. Itās not easy when you have sometimes political winds that are blowing in your face, but the engine is pretty strong.Ā
NIH has a lot of support on the Hill, by the way. Republicans and Democrats alike ā when it comes to the mission of medical research and trying to improve the health of Americans, the support is very strong. So, I think NIH will be fine whatever comes along in terms of political changes.Ā
On what he hopes to achieve with his new book:
Iām hoping that people who have not thought about this intersection of faith and science might be provoked by this to do so, or if they have, to dig deeper. This is not a simple book; itās not a superficial book. Itās got a lot of depth to it. I hope people will read it and say, āYou know, I hadnāt thought about that before. Maybe I should.ā And maybe theyāll have some conversations with other people that might be interesting.Ā
I hope thatās going to be the outcome. Itās not a book thatās going to be on the bestseller list. Itās a book thatās going to be in the hands of a bunch of people who are really interested in this particular intersection and want to go a little deeper.Ā
Collinsā new book, āThe Road to Wisdom,ā is available now in bookstores and online. It offers a unique perspective on the intersection of faith and science, drawing on Collinsā experiences as a scientist, doctor, and devout Christian. Whether you agree with his views or not, one thing is for sure: Francis Collins is a fascinating figure whose insights are worth exploring.

