After analyzing footage of Brittany Trobule’s reaction to Erika Kirk hugging her husband, body language expert, Brown, pointed out a key component that may shed light on what was going through her mind. Brown noted that Trobule rolling “her lips in” indicated that she was holding back information or emotion.

“When the lips disappear, trouble is near,” Brown ascertained. “So she is holding back information or emotion. And right there, I bet it’s emotion. So something’s not sitting with her just right about this situation. Because Jason tries to leave the hug, and Erika won’t let him.

“If you look, he tries to pull away, and she won’t let him pull away. So watch it close, and you’ll see that.”

Brown, the author of How to Detect Lies, Fraud and Identity Theft, also compared Kirk’s hug with Jason to her hug with Sean Hannity. He pointed out that the contrast in her behavior during the two interactions was significant.

“Why wouldn’t you, if your hugs have been working, why wouldn’t you do the same thing, right? We all do patterns. We all use patterns as a way to behave, because it decreases our cognitive load. And so she hugs Sean Hannity the same way, and it doesn’t go as good. His pelvis is a lot further from hers… And he does have one arm wrapped around her back and kind of pats her a couple times, but he doesn’t know what to do with his right arm. He’s completely uncomfortable, because… he’s probably not a touchy-feely guy,” Brown explained.