When Tapper asked if Trump believes the lies he tells or if he is just selling and snowing like George Costanza, ‘it’s not a lie if you believe it,’ Haberman hit back at Trump for inflating his polling numbers on CNBC. She pointed out that there has been a slow descent in his numbers since he returned to the Oval Office in January.
Regarding the polarization of the current era, Haberman emphasized the difficulty of finding a president who can win with the same numbers as President Obama did in 2008. She mentioned that it was a very specific moment in history.
Tapper also noted that no one seems to push back against Trump in his current term compared to his first term. Haberman highlighted that the White House is very different this time, with a clear desire to please Trump and avoid objections, even if he vents angrily at staff.
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